Tuesday, May 10, 2005

A DISGRACEFUL DIPLOMATIC FAUX PAS

That cowboy G.W.Bush just did another diplomatic faux pas. This time in the breakaway Latvian and Georgian republics. It is his schoolyard bully personality that has most of the world hating America. While in these places, Shrub had the audacity to criticise Russia! He actually announced to the world that it was wrong for Russia to «dominate» Eastern Europe. Like it was OK for America to dominate Western Europe? I somehow remember the Red Army liberated Eastern Europe from the Nazi thugs. Is Shrub saying he would have sided with A. Hitler?This stunt was done only to embarass President V.V.Putin. Proper diplomacy would have Bush go through the chain of command of diplomatic channels. The code word of a diplomat is restraint. Shrub should have sat down and discussed this calmly with V.V. Putin, rather than cause an international incident as he did. An apology would be appropriate.

46 Vignettes:

At 12:15 PM, May 10, 2005, Blogger camojack vignetted...

Well, your spelling is much better in this one, but you're not there yet...

Here, read this article
(You might learn something)

 
At 1:08 PM, May 10, 2005, Blogger imagoner vignetted...

Don't you realize that Bush says whatever the hell he wants? It's his last term, so he dosen't need re-elected, but also, he does things that benifit him and his pals exclusivly and screw the rest of us...

 
At 2:20 PM, May 10, 2005, Blogger littleboxes vignetted...

we would say that Russia's "domination" of E. Europe was much different than the U.S. "domination" of W. Europe.

However, the "Does George W. support Hitler" line of questioning is good. It seems like that is what republicans would say about a liberal if one were to suggest that Russian control of E. Europe was problematic.

 
At 3:20 PM, May 10, 2005, Blogger Josh Fahrni vignetted...

I believe Putin pussy attacked first. And yeah, the yalta agreement was a huge blunder, letting the Reds dominate. As someone said yesterday 'They are saying that they are celebrating the end of World War two, when really, in only ended up 10 years ago.' 15 million killed in Russia's Borders..just don't lie.

 
At 4:10 PM, May 10, 2005, Anonymous Mack vignetted...

Camojack:Here, read this article
(You might learn something)


I had a look. It's priceless.

Quote:

"Vladimir Putin knew what he was saying, and we do, too.

A man who smothered the independent media, ransacked the judiciary and parliamentary institutions of his country, [like G W Bush?] dealt arms to Iran and Syria, [like BushCo dealt arms everywhere including to Saddam Hussein??] tried to subvert the Ukrainian revolution [like America poured cash into it, dabbling as usual in the affairs of others?] and soaks his speeches with lugubrious nostalgia for the good old days [like Bush soaks his in 'messages from God' and appeals to so-called patriotism?] can't celebrate very much the decline and fall of the most efficiently oppressive regime of the century..."

heh heh

More double standards from the Repugs. What more can we expect.

BTW, don't bother jumping back and asking if I support what was done by the Soviet Union. I don't. I just loathe the hyprocisy of your current admin, and those who support it.

 
At 4:46 PM, May 10, 2005, Blogger FruitSmack! vignetted...

Oh, and don't forget about the comments on FDR and how his polio ridden corpse apparently just handed over Eastern Europe to the USSR.

'Cause, you know, Bush would have handled it oh so much better. Right. Just like he and his neo-con thugs are spreading democracy and freedom to the middle east.

I'm getting headaches from the amount of eye rolling I had to do durring his speaches in Eastern Europe over the last week or so.

 
At 5:06 PM, May 10, 2005, Blogger GPV vignetted...

Check: www.iraqbodycount.com

See through Iraqies'eyes.

 
At 5:13 PM, May 10, 2005, Blogger Paradigm Shifter vignetted...

howie thanks for stopping by both of my blogs http://revolutionaryparadigm.blogspot.com/

and

http://pissedonpolitics.blogspot.com

Is the title of your blog Howie or educationalvignette...just want to know so I can link you up.

Email me which name you prefer
jwharris7@gmail.com

 
At 5:15 PM, May 10, 2005, Blogger PoliShifter vignetted...

You should have seen Putin on 60 Minutes tear Mike Wallace a new one...I put up a few Putin quotes on http://pissedonpolitics.blogspot.com

Check out http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/05/06/60minutes/main693422.shtml

for the full story

 
At 5:44 PM, May 10, 2005, Blogger hooey vignetted...

Paradigm Shifter vignetted...

«Is the title of your blog Howie or educationalvignette...just want to know so I can link you up».

The title is «howie», but either one is OK

 
At 2:50 AM, May 11, 2005, Anonymous African Moonbat vignetted...

H'mmm, difficult one

The poor Europeans. Liberated, opressed and dominated by the two main powers of World War 2. Now who wouls I rather be opressed, liberated and dominated by? The Stalinists or BushCo and his fellow RethugniKKKans. H'mmm not such a difficult choice after all....BushCo and his fellow RethugniKKKans would suit me fine.

 
At 5:54 AM, May 11, 2005, Anonymous Mack vignetted...

"Now who wouls I rather be opressed, liberated and dominated by? The Stalinists or BushCo and his fellow RethugniKKKans. H'mmm not such a difficult choice after all....BushCo and his fellow RethugniKKKans would suit me fine."

You shouldn't be oppressed or dominated by anyone, silly.
You can't even see what Bush is doing to your precious liberty.
Your corporate media are gagged, and go along with it to their shame.
Your president is accountable and loyal only to the corporations who put him in power, and the money-bags in his administration. Not remotely interested in the wellbeing of you, the American people.
Meanwhile he struts on the world stage and destroys the reputation of America. It's going to take decades to recover.
And you don't give a shit.

Blind and deaf, but not dumb apparently. There's more rubbish posted here by repugs than anyone could take in one day.

 
At 9:38 AM, May 11, 2005, Anonymous African Moonbat vignetted...

Mack,

If you were a member of an opressed poor nation, who would you rather be liberated by? The Wicked Americans, or the Soviets or the Chinese or whoever.

Bush is destroying the reputation of America? Amongst Whom? Those non Americans, (like me), who held the USA in high esteem have had no reason to lessen our esteem in past four years. At least your current Prez has the cojones to do other things apart from stain ladies dresses. Even if he did raise our eyebrows at the decision to go into Iraq, we recognise that that was a decision that took guts and the Saddam problem that had been festering since he (Saddam)took power had to be resolved some way or another, sooner or later. The fact that Saddams eventual fall would probably have resulted in inter ethnic carnage on a Rwanda Burundi scale, probably worse, makes me admire Bush more.

The situation is not the best in Iraq, but it would have been much worse had the coalition forces not been there.Who else would have kept order after Saddam's eventual fall? The United Nations? Those are the guys that watched the Rwandans slaughter each other in their hundreds of thousands before finally doing something. They're also the guys that had meetings about rendering help to Tsunami victims while the US Navy was already there and doing that, (on the orders of your wicked, wicked and ever so stupid Commander in Chief)((sarcasm off)).

So Americas reputation has been dented amongst which people? The same folk who watched aeroplanes fly into buildings and trot out the usual "Oh, how awful, but the Yanks had it coming becuase they don't understand the root causes yadda yadda". Why are you worried about your country's standing amongst such people? They at best disliked the USA long before Bush took office.

 
At 1:44 PM, May 11, 2005, Anonymous stalin lives in boston vignetted...

u got served, mack.

and btw, you cant just make bold assumptions and base your truth off of someone else's opinion.

there is NO smoking gun that says the bush administration is evil. so let it go already.

the democrats are still pissed off over having the supreme court uphold federal law in 2000.

since then its been nothing but petty name calling and imaginary prison-state rhetoric.

get over it, commies, bush isnt hitler, you still have civil liberties, and youre no going to gitmo for no reason.

the fact that millions of americans can start their own blogs to spew venom and malice towards the president is PROOF that your dissent is not being crushed.

 
At 7:56 PM, May 11, 2005, Anonymous Mack vignetted...

"and btw, you cant just make bold assumptions and base your truth off of someone else's opinion"

Fancy that!

Maybe re-read my post??

I'm not American.

I said "Your president". So you make the "bold assumption" that I'm a (US) Democrat?

[As I said, deaf and blind, but never dumb ...]

If you moved outside your bubble of self-imposed ignorance, you might have some idea what's going on out there in the real world.

 
At 7:04 AM, May 12, 2005, Blogger camojack vignetted...

Mack said:
I'm not American.

I said "Your president". So you make the "bold assumption" that I'm a (US) Democrat?
[As I said, deaf and blind, but never dumb ...]
If you moved outside your bubble of self-imposed ignorance, you might have some idea what's going on out there in the real world.


Since you're not American, and you live in the "real world", why waste your erudite (asinine, more like) commentary on we poor, delusional unfortunates? We don't care what you think of us, either.

Now go away, or I will be forced to taunt you a second time-ah, you wiper of other people's bottoms...

 
At 8:28 AM, May 12, 2005, Anonymous Mack vignetted...

oooh! Camojack is going to "taunt me". How scawy!

heh heh ... deaf and blind but never dumb ... throw some more senseless shit around, you might feel even better.

 
At 9:51 AM, May 12, 2005, Blogger camojack vignetted...

Mack said...
"...throw some more senseless shit around"


I would really like to throw some senseless shit around...but I don't know where you're hiding. Moron...

 
At 10:42 AM, May 12, 2005, Anonymous Mack vignetted...

"but I don't know where you're hiding. Moron... "
Meow!

And where are you hiding, "camojack"? There's fuck-all info on your profile, and the 'United States' is a very big place.

(You're not hiding, of course.)

You seem to assume that nobody has a right to comment here, other than US citizens.

Grow up. Get out of your diapers, sonny.

PS: You need a little dress sense too. Maybe dump the flag-shirt. It's painful. I suppose you have a great big macho gun to go with the toy bike. Not impressed. Sorry!

 
At 11:36 AM, May 12, 2005, Blogger hooey vignetted...

This is an internatational blog. The reason America is such a big place is due to imperialism. This is not the same right wing Mack you rember from Scarpple Face.

 
At 11:59 AM, May 12, 2005, Blogger camojack vignetted...

Mack said:
And where are you hiding, "camojack"? There's fuck-all info on your profile, and the 'United States' is a very big place.


At least that narrows it down more than you have, with your "not an American". But I'm "hiding" in the Cradle of Liberty; look that up in your Funk & Wagnalls, punk. Anyway, what flag shirt?

FYI, I wouldn't need a gun to make to cry, and probably wet your knickers too. You'd never talk your (s)mack like that to my face, sissy la-la baby! You're probably some Brit pansy. Big talk from across the "Big Pond".

And howie, it's all too obvious that this little poofter is a different Mack...

 
At 12:57 PM, May 12, 2005, Anonymous Mark vignetted...

LMAO! I stick in a 'meow' or two and talk about his clothes and he jumpts to exactly the conclusion I want him to! My god, this is so funny. He's so mad he's even making typos ...

Mais non. Je n' suis pas Anglais! J'ai été souvent en France, alors, mais je ne suis pas Francais, non plus!

(Would the Right Honourable Gentleman like a cup of Earl Grey?)

Ich bin Mack und ich bin von Bonn! Ich schreibe auf englisch, um Ihnen zu entsprechen. Ich bin ein Bürger der Welt. Nicht ein britischer 'Homosexual'.

Dummkopf!!!

poofter?

OMG he's so funny :)

Hey, Camojack, your prejudices came out PDQ. Just what I was expecting, mate.

 
At 1:01 PM, May 12, 2005, Anonymous Mack vignetted...

Sorry for the typo. It's Mack, not Mark. I was laughing so hard here.

Cradle of Liberty? Isn't that all about free speech and all that stuff that you Bushies like to think you have?

But not me. No, you want me off this blog, right? No free speech for non-Americans??

 
At 1:13 PM, May 12, 2005, Anonymous Mack vignetted...

Is that why you've restricted your own blog to those who don't have a blogger ID? You're afraid I'll turn up there?

What about free speech Camojack?

Isn't the US the great home of free speech?

 
At 5:09 PM, May 12, 2005, Anonymous Stalin Lives In Boston vignetted...

lol, don't be a fag mack.

was that the language of the Frogs you were speaking?

wait... who bailed you out of all those troubles your country keeps getting into? the US? NO WAY!

what a novel idea, though. someone who speaks french being a pompous prick and completely divorced from reality.

 
At 7:37 PM, May 12, 2005, Blogger Josh Fahrni vignetted...

Is that why you've restricted your own blog to those who don't have a blogger ID? You're afraid I'll turn up there?

What about free speech Camojack?

Isn't the US the great home of free speech?


Why, yes it is. Try and live in Russia, and talk your shit about Putin. Oh you wouldn't...I'm sure you like Putin. Also, It's possible camojack doesn't want idiots like you hijacking the comments with their bullshit, uninformed rhetoric.

Also, we're for spreading democracy, but unless you're a United States citizen...you aren't recognized by our Constitution. So if you WOULD so kindly stfu, that'd be dandy. If you ever want that freedom of speech though, give the US a call-we're always here.

 
At 4:22 AM, May 13, 2005, Anonymous Mack vignetted...

"but unless you're a United States citizen...you aren't recognized by our Constitution"

Which is why you're running that torture hell-hole at Guantanamo? And of course, if you fly people to Egypt you can torture them in secret ... Aren't you proud?

However:
Jose Padilla : US Citizen Imprisoned Without Charge or Trial for 2 Years and 338 Days


BTW, many people speak French [and German -- you can't even positively recognise either?] without being French or German.

I'm neither of them, in fact.

As for Camojack's blog:

It's a nice incestuous little place there - somewhere he can sit and read the contratulatory comments from like-minded repugs, and bask in his own reflection. He hasn't the guts to accept comments from me.

 
At 4:27 AM, May 13, 2005, Anonymous Mack vignetted...

Howie has the guts, though.
To let you lot post here.

 
At 6:52 AM, May 13, 2005, Blogger hooey vignetted...

Mack, I would guess you were Irish. Thanks for posting here!

 
At 8:09 AM, May 13, 2005, Anonymous Mack vignetted...

You got it, Howie.
And you're welcome. :)

 
At 12:14 PM, May 13, 2005, Anonymous JannyMae vignetted...

Howie: "I would guess that you're Irish."

Mack: "You got it, Howie!"

Of course he's got it, since you obviously told him! Talk about the epitome of bullshit! Howie the blog-whore has a girlfriend! I'm so not impressed.

 
At 12:26 PM, May 13, 2005, Blogger hooey vignetted...

Wel, look who's back.

 
At 7:05 PM, May 13, 2005, Anonymous JannyMae vignetted...

"4BUSH = typical rihgt winger. Pnesent him with the facts and the truth, and recieve an ad-hominem personal attack in return."

Actually, Howie, you're the one that's "back,"--polluting Liberal Larry's site--with what is your typical and apparently your ONLY response to anything conservative in nature. Pretty lame, pal!

Kiss, kiss!

 
At 5:46 AM, May 14, 2005, Anonymous Mack vignetted...

[groan]
Sounds like 'momto10' under yet another name. Have you been hanging around, eavesdropping?

"Of course he's got it, since you obviously told him! Talk about the epitome of bullshit! Howie the blog-whore has a girlfriend! I'm so not impressed."

Don't be such a terminal twit.
Maybe you think I'm sending Howie coded messages in French? I have no way of speaking to him other than on this page, or another comments page.
Also, I'm old enough to be Howie's father.
So for Christ's sake use your head - if you have a brain cell that's not calcified.

 
At 8:09 AM, May 14, 2005, Blogger hooey vignetted...

JannyMae vignetted...
«'4BUSH = typical rihgt winger. Pnesent him with the facts and the truth, and recieve an ad-hominem personal attack in return.'»

«Actually, Howie, you're the one that's "back,"--polluting Liberal Larry's site--with what is your typical and apparently your ONLY response to anything conservative in nature. Pretty lame, pal!»

I rest my case.

 
At 6:27 PM, May 14, 2005, Anonymous JannyMae vignetted...

"Also, I'm old enough to be Howie's father." (only if you happen to believe that he's a 20 year old college student)

"So for Christ's sake use your head - if you have a brain cell that's not calcified."

Present a liberal with the truth and all you get back are insults and ad hominem attacks!

Hypocrisy abounds in, "Howie's World!"

 
At 6:31 PM, May 14, 2005, Anonymous JannyMae vignetted...

I said: "Actually, Howie, you're the one that's "back,"--polluting Liberal Larry's site--with what is your typical and apparently your ONLY response to anything conservative in nature. Pretty lame, pal!"

I can't help but notice that you have apparently taken this to heart and are actually attempting to make something other than these idiotic responses!

Congratulations, Howie! It's about time! I'm proud of you! Honestly. I am.

As far as, "Mack," is concerned, he/she/it can eat my dirty socks! Now, THAT'S an ad hominem attack which is well deserved!

 
At 7:40 PM, May 14, 2005, Blogger W.C. Varones vignetted...

You're an idiot.

You can't understand the difference between the way the Soviet Union treated Eastern Europe in the 50's - 80's and the way the U.S. treated Western Europe in the same era?

 
At 5:04 AM, May 15, 2005, Anonymous Mack vignetted...

"Present a liberal with the truth and all you get back are insults and ad hominem attacks!
Hypocrisy abounds in, "Howie's World!"


What "truth" did you present me with?
This?:

"Of course he's got it, since you obviously told him! Talk about the epitome of bullshit! Howie the blog-whore has a girlfriend! I'm so not impressed."

You must be joking.

And "all" you got back was an ad hominem attack?

Can you read?

I believe I said:

"Maybe you think I'm sending Howie coded messages in French? I have no way of speaking to him other than on this page, or another comments page.
Also, I'm old enough to be Howie's father."


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"As far as, "Mack," is concerned, he/she/it can eat my dirty socks! Now, THAT'S an ad hominem attack which is well deserved!"

LOL. Is momto10 your sister?

Maybe we could deal with some facts here? I don't see a single response to what I wrote earlier:

Which is why you're running that torture hell-hole at Guantanamo? And of course, if you fly people to Egypt you can torture them in secret ... Aren't you proud?

However:
Jose Padilla : US Citizen Imprisoned Without Charge or Trial for 2 Years and 338 Days


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Here's some more for you:

Seven months before Sept. 11, 2001, the State Department issued a human rights report on Uzbekistan. It was a litany of horrors. The police repeatedly tortured prisoners, State Department officials wrote, noting that the most common techniques were "beating, often with blunt weapons, and asphyxiation with a gas mask."

Separately, international human rights groups had reported that torture in Uzbek jails included boiling of body parts, using electroshock on genitals and plucking off fingernails and toenails with pliers. Two prisoners were boiled to death, the groups reported. The February 2001 State Department report stated bluntly, "Uzbekistan is an authoritarian state with limited civil rights."

Immediately after the Sept. 11 attacks, however, the Bush administration turned to Uzbekistan as a partner in fighting 'global terrorism'. The nation, a former Soviet republic in Central Asia, granted the United States the use of a military base for fighting the Taliban across the border in Afghanistan.

President Bush welcomed President Islam Karimov of Uzbekistan to the White House, and the United States has given Uzbekistan more than $500 million for border control and other security measures.

Now there is growing evidence that the United States has sent terror suspects to Uzbekistan for detention and interrogation, even as Uzbekistan's treatment of its own prisoners continues to earn it admonishments from around the world, including from the State Department. -- New York Times

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Could we have an intelligent response, please, JannyMae? I'm not remotely interested in your socks or any other bits of your dirty laundry.

---

Did you mention the Soviet Union, W.C. Varones? The current US Admin is going the right way about acquiring the same reputation. See above.

 
At 3:12 PM, May 15, 2005, Blogger TripleNeckSteel vignetted...

Yeah, listen to mack everyone...

After all, don't you know how hard it has been for him to smuggle all of this nonsense out of the AmeriKKKan gulag via samizdat?

What a fookin' joke howie and his little playmates are...

 
At 5:37 PM, May 15, 2005, Anonymous Mack vignetted...

I suppose you consider that an 'intelligent' reponse, 'TripleNeckSteel'.

 
At 6:04 PM, May 15, 2005, Blogger hooey vignetted...

Present a consevative with the facts and recieve an ad-hominem personal attack in return.

 
At 11:38 PM, May 15, 2005, Anonymous JannyMae vignetted...

I'm sorry, "Mack," but I find your unsubstantiated, "facts," to be about as significant and worthy of a response as my dirty socks. Since you obviously didn't get my message the first time, here it is, in plain English: I see absolutely no point in arguing with you. Buh-bye!

 
At 6:48 AM, May 16, 2005, Blogger hooey vignetted...

Present a consevative with the facts and recieve an ad-hominem personal attack in return.

 
At 11:04 AM, May 17, 2005, Anonymous hankmeister vignetted...

Howie, speaking of a "diplomatic faux pas", don't you think Vincente Fox's callous reference to colored/negro/black/Afro-/African-Americans was stooopid? And not only that it proves he isn't the progessive that he originally portrayed himself to be?

Do you thing he could possibly be a Repuglikkkan KKKarl Rove plant south of the border?

"To be or not to be..." - Shakespeare

 
At 10:54 PM, May 18, 2005, Blogger A.T. vignetted...

Thanks for coming to Thornblog Howie. Good to have you. Linked you today:

Young Guns I: Another recent visitor to Thornblog was 20 year old Howie, an education major with a minor in history. He noted to us that he's a "progressive" and, indeed, he is. I enjoyed this note from Howie, in lambasting Bush for having the audacity to criticize Putin's recent yearnings for the Soviet Union: "I somehow remember the Red Army liberated Eastern Europe from the Nazi thugs." We're happy to have had Howie come by and we encourage him to work a bit more on that history minor. "Liberation" with the intent to subjugate is hardly liberation in any sense of the word, after all.

Hey, you had to see that coming, right?

 

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