Sunday, March 05, 2006

Wise Words From Maj. Gen. Dr. Vernon Chong, USAF, Ret.

This WAR is for REAL!
October 1, 2005

To get out of a difficulty, one usually must go
through it. Our country is
now facing the most serious threat to its
existence, as we know it, that we
have faced in your lifetime and mine (which includes
WWII).

The deadly seriousness is greatly compounded by the
fact that there are very
few of us who think we can possibly lose this war
and even fewer who realize
what losing really means.

First, let's examine a few basics:

1. When did the threat to us start?

Many will say September 11, 2001. The answer as
far as the United States
is concerned is 1979, 22 years prior to September
2001, with the following
attacks on us:

* Iran Embassy Hostages, 1979;
* Beirut, Lebanon Embassy 1983;
* Beirut, Lebanon Marine Barracks 1983;
* Lockerbie, Scotland Pan-Am flight to New York
1988;
* First New York World Trade Center attack 1993;
* Dhahran, Saudi Arabia Khobar Towers Military
complex 1996;
* Nairobi, Kenya US Embassy 1998;
* Dares Salaam, Tanzania US Embassy 1998;
* Aden, Yemen USS Cole 2000;
* New York World Trade Center 2001;
* Pentagon 2001.

(Note that during the period from 1981 to 2001
there were 7,581 terrorist
attacks worldwide).

2. Why were we attacked?

Envy of our position, our success, and our
freedoms. The attacks happened
during the administrations of Presidents Carter,
Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton and
Bush 2. We cannot fault either the Republicans or
Democrats as there were no
provocations by any of the presidents or their
immediate predecessors,
Presidents Ford or Carter.

3. Who were the attackers?

In each case, the attacks on the US were carried
out by Muslims.

4. What is the Muslim population of the World? 25%.


5. Isn't the Muslim Religion peaceful?

Hopefully, but that is really not material. There
is no doubt that the
predominately Christian population of Germany was
peaceful, but under the
dictatorial leadership of Hitler (who was also
Christian), that made no difference.
You either went along with the administration or you
were eliminated. There
were 5 to 6 million Christians killed by the Nazis
for political reasons
(including 7,000 Polish priests).
(see _http://www.nazis.testimony.co.uk/7-a.htm_
(http://www.nazis.testimony.co.uk/7-a.htm) )

Thus, almost the same number of Christians were
killed by the Nazis, as the
six million holocaust Jews who were killed by them,
and we seldom heard of
anything other than the Jewish atrocities. Although
Hitler kept the world
focused on the Jews, he had no hesitancy about
killing anyone who got in his way
of exterminating the Jews or of taking over the
world - German, Christian or
any others.

Same with the Muslim terrorists. They focus the
world on the US, but kill
all in the way -- their own people or the Spanish,
French or anyone else. The
point here is that just like the peaceful Germans
were of no protection to
anyone from the Nazis, no matter how many peaceful
Muslims there may be, they
are no protection for us from the terrorist Muslim
leaders and what they are
fanatically bent on doing -- by their own
pronouncements -- killing all of us
"infidels." I don't blame the peaceful Muslims. What
would you do if the
choice was shut up or die?

6. So who are we at war with?

There is no way we can honestly respond that it is
anyone other than the
Muslim terrorists. Trying to be politically correct
and avoid verbalizing this
conclusion can well be fatal. There is no way to
win if you don't clearly
recognize and articulate who you are fighting.

So with that background, now to the two major
questions:

1. Can we lose this war?

2. What does losing really mean?

If we are to win, we must clearly answer these two
pivotal questions.

We can definitely lose this war, and as anomalous
as it may sound, the major
reason we can lose is that so many of us simply do
not fathom the answer to
the second question - What does losing mean?

It would appear that a great many of us think that
losing the war means
hanging our heads, bringing the troops home and
going on about our business, like
post Vietnam. This is as far from the truth as one
can get.

What losing really means is:

We would no longer be the premier country in the
world. The attacks will not
subside, but rather will steadily increase.
Remember, they want us dead, not
just quiet. If they had just wanted us quiet, they
would not have produced
an increasing series of attacks against us, over
the past 18 years. The plan
was clearly, for terrorist to attack us, until we
were neutered and submissive
to them.

We would of course have no future support from other
nations, for fear of
reprisals and for the reason that they would see,
we are impotent and cannot
help them.

They will pick off the other non-Muslim nations,
one at a time. It will be
increasingly easier for them. They already hold
Spain hostage. It doesn't
matter whether it was right or wrong for Spain to
withdraw its troops from
Iraq. Spain did it because the Muslim terrorists
bombed their train and told
them to withdraw the troops. Anything else they
want Spain to do will be done.
Spain is finished.

The next will probably be France. Our one hope on
France is that they might
see the light and realize that if we don't win,
they are finished too, in
that they can't resist the Muslim terrorists without
us. However, it may
already be too late for France. France is already
20% Muslim and fading fast!

If we lose the war, our production, income, exports
and way of life will all
vanish as we know it. After losing, who would trade
or deal with us, if they
were threatened by the Muslims.

If we can't stop the Muslims, how could anyone
else?

The Muslims fully know what is riding on this war,
and therefore are
completely committed to winning, at any cost. We
better know it too and be likewise
committed to winning at any cost.

Why do I go on at such lengths about the results of
losing? Simple. Until we
recognize the costs of losing, we cannot unite and
really put 100% of our
thoughts and efforts into winning. And it is going
to take that 100% effort to
win.

So, how can we lose the war?

Again, the answer is simple. We can lose the war by
"imploding." That is,
defeating ourselves by refusing to recognize the
enemy and their purpose, and
really digging in and lending full support to the
war effort. If we are
united, there is no way that we can lose. If we
continue to be divided, there is
no way that we can win!

Let me give you a few examples of how we simply
don't comprehend the life
and death seriousness of this situation.

President Bush selects Norman Mineta as Secretary
of Transportation.
Although all of the terrorist attacks were
committed by Muslim men between 17 and 40
years of age, Secretary Mineta refuses to allow
profiling. Does that sound
like we are taking this thing seriously? This is
war! For the duration, we are
going to have to give up some of the civil rights
we have become accustomed
to. We had better be prepared to lose some of our
civil rights temporarily or
we will most certainly lose all of them
permanently.

And don't worry that it is a slippery slope. We
gave up plenty of civil
rights during WWII, and immediately restored them
after the victory and in fact
added many more since then.

Do I blame President Bush or President Clinton
before him?

No, I blame us for blithely assuming we can
maintain all of our Political
Correctness, and all of our civil rights during
this conflict and have a clean,
lawful, honorable war. None of those words apply to
war. Get them out of
your head.

Some have gone so far in their criticism of the war
and/or the
Administration that it almost seems they would
literally like to see us lose. I hasten to
add that this isn't because they are disloyal. It
is because they just don't
recognize what losing means. Nevertheless, that
conduct gives the impression
to the enemy that we are divided and weakening. It
concerns our friends,
and it does great damage to our cause.

Of more recent vintage, the uproar fueled by the
politicians and media
regarding the treatment of some prisoners of war,
perhaps exemplifies best what I
am saying. We have recently had an issue, involving
the treatment of a few
Muslim prisoners of war, by a small group of our
military police. These are
the type prisoners who just a few months ago were
throwing their own people off
buildings, cutting off their hands, cutting out
their tongues and otherwise
murdering their own people just for disagreeing with
Saddam Hussein.

And just a few years ago these same type prisoners
chemically killed 400,000
of their own people for the same reason. They are
also the same type enemy
fighters, who recently were burning Americans, and
dragging their charred
corpses through the streets of Iraq.

And still more recently, the same type enemy that
was and is providing
videos to all news sources internationally, of the
beheading of American prisoners
they held.

Compare this with some of our press and
politicians, who for several days
have thought and talked about nothing else but the
"humiliating" of some Muslim
prisoners -- not burning them, not dragging their
charred corpses through
the streets, not beheading them, but "humiliating"
them.

Can this be for real?

The politicians and pundits have even talked of
impeachment of the Secretary
of Defense. If this doesn't show the complete lack
of comprehension and
understanding of the seriousness of the enemy we
are fighting, the life and death
struggle we are in and the disastrous results of
losing this war, nothing
can.

To bring our country to a virtual political
standstill over this prisoner
issue makes us look like Nero playing his fiddle as
Rome burned -- totally
oblivious to what is going on in the real world.
Neither we, nor any other
country, can survive this internal strife. Again I
say, this does not mean that
some of our politicians or media people are
disloyal. It simply means that
they are absolutely oblivious to the magnitude, of
the situation we are in and
into which the Muslim terrorists have been pushing
us, for many years.

Remember, the Muslim terrorists stated goal is to
kill all infidels! That
translates into ALL non-Muslims -- not just in the
United States, but
throughout the world.

We are the last bastion of defense.

We have been criticized for many years as being
'arrogant.' That charge is
valid in at least one respect. We are arrogant in
that we believe that we are
so good, powerful and smart, that we can win the
hearts and minds of all
those who attack us, and that with both hands tied
behind our back, we can
defeat anything bad in the world!

We can't!

If we don't recognize this, our nation as we know it
will not survive, and
no other free country in the world will survive if
we are defeated.

And finally, name any Muslim countries throughout
the world that allow
freedom of speech, freedom of thought, freedom of
religion, freedom of the press,
equal rights for anyone -- let alone everyone,
equal status or any status for
women, or that have been productive in one single
way that contributes to
the good of the world.

This has been a long way of saying that we must be
united on this war or we
will be equated in the history books to the
self-inflicted fall of the Roman
Empire. That is, if the Muslim leaders will allow
history books to be
written or read.

If we don't win this war right now, keep a close
eye on how the Muslims
take over France in the next 5 years or less. They
will continue to increase the
Muslim population of France and continue to
encroach little by little, on
the established French traditions. The French will
be fighting among
themselves, over what should or should not be done,
which will continue to weaken them
and keep them from any united resolve. Doesn't that
sound eerily familiar?

Democracies don't have their freedoms taken away
from them by some external
military force. Instead, they give their freedoms
away, politically correct
piece by politically correct piece.

And they are giving those freedoms away to those
who have shown, worldwide,
that they abhor freedom and will not apply it to
you or even to themselves,
once they are in power.

They have universally shown that when they have
taken over, they then start
brutally killing each other over who will be the
few who control the masses.
Will we ever stop hearing from the politically
correct, about the "peaceful
Muslims"?

I close on a hopeful note, by repeating what I said
above. If we are united,
there is no way that we can lose. I hope now after
the election, the
factions in our country will begin to focus on the
critical situation we are in, and
will unite to save our country. It is your future
we are talking about! Do
whatever you can to preserve it.

35 Vignettes:

At 6:22 PM, March 05, 2006, Blogger camojack vignetted...

Lengthy, but well-written. Now we just have to wait for those people who will inevitably misquote Ben Franklin's statement regarding giving up our essential liberty in favor of security.

And the usual posts from Ireland...

 
At 8:39 PM, March 05, 2006, Blogger JR vignetted...

Mecca will be destroyed before you know it… Can’t wait… Muslim terrorists or better known as Wahabis want to be in charge of Mecca... And of course their brand of Islam is the only true one… And if they have Mecca their dreams will come true… It is as simple as that... They see the US presence as standing in their way of taking over Saudi Arabia... Wahabis believe any one who is not Wahabi is an infidel… That is why they can kill other Muslims along with women and children in hopes the US will leave the middle east… Wahabis are starting to realize that nothing they do will ever get them Mecca… And if they can’t have Mecca no one will…

 
At 1:08 AM, March 10, 2006, Blogger camojack vignetted...

Wise Words From Maj. Gen. Dr. Vernon Chong, USAF, Ret.

Do you suppose he's related to Tommy Chong, of "Cheech & Chong" fame?

Far out, man!

 
At 5:52 PM, April 01, 2006, Blogger Beerme vignetted...

Nice job, Hooey!
Resolve. I like the sound of that.

 
At 9:01 PM, April 03, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous vignetted...

For real?

 
At 12:10 PM, April 30, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous vignetted...

1. Iraq didn't attack us. Iraq actually didn't have a terrorist problem until we got there and took the country apart. Justifying the Iraq war as something we had to engage in (to protect ourselves from the threat of militant Muslims who want to take over the world) is simply wrong. NOW it's full of militant Muslims, but whose responsible for that?

2. Does he really think Muslim terrorism began because there's some over-arching Muslim plot to wipe the Christians off the map?
I'm not exactly sure what the roots are, but that ain't it. I suppose we could look way back to the crusades, when there WAS a Christian plot to take the Middle East from the "infidels." But, of course that was really about money. And the forces were more evenly matched. So the Christians invaded, there were conventional battles, and the Christians lost.

3. Perhaps the seeds were sewn when the British Empire controlled the Middle East. This hatred of the west might originate with that kind of arrogant subjugation (The world is here to serve us superior Brits. We'll bring civilization to the heathen and make some money too. Here, have some tea.) That the end of the British occupation coincided with the founding of Israel--or in the Muslim/Arab point of view, the stealing of land from the Palestinians--didn't help. I obviously don't object to the founding of Israel, being Jewish and all, but perhaps it could have been handled differently. The treatment of the Palestinians sucks.

4. Perhaps it has something to do with western support of repressive regimes (including Saddamm Hussein, the Shah of Iran, etc.) that have nothing to do with democracy but are good for business here.

5. Terrorism, much like guerrilla warfare, originates when there's disparity in power. It's a way for the less powerful to defend against the more powerful. Terrorism is a reaction to something. It's a defensive strategy, not an offensive strategy. That's why the Basque separatists use it in Spain. That's why the Palestinians use it in Israel. That's why Nat Turner used it in the South. This isn't a justification for terrorism, which is horrible, but an explanation.

6. The terrorists who attack us feel they're defending themselves from us. Now, why would they think that? I think our country needs to seriously answer that question before it can truly battle terrorism. We need to address their motives. Dr. ____ (what's his name?) feels we're in danger of going down like the Roman Empire. Well one way for that to not happen, is to not behave like the Roman Empire, to not behave like the British Empire. We need to stop behaving like the world is here for our benefit. We need to actually back up what we say we stand for--freedom, democracy--with policy and action. That means not supporting repressive regimes even though it benefits us economically. When we do that those people who are repressed see us as part of the problem; we become their enemy. And their terrorists attack us.

7. All these points that I've made are overly simplified. This situation is incredibly complicated. There's a lot I don't know. But I do know Dr. ______ is wrong. I don't think militant Muslims are trying to take over the world. I also think he's xenophobic and a bit of a bigot.

 
At 1:03 PM, April 30, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous vignetted...

Good Lord, where do I start?
Just to disagree w/ a few points:

1. When did the threat to us start?
Is it possible that the threat began at the end of WW1 and intensified after WW2. The Ottoman Empire and Africa was broken up into states whose borders were drawn by Europe, the US, Oil companies a myriad of economic interests. The borders were often not drawn with respect to differing religons, language or cultures.
Of course, it could have begun when Adam ate the apple.

2. Why were we attacked?
It's simplistic and ridiculous to suggest that all of the attacks are due to "Envy of our position, our success, and our freedoms." Our fiscal and military support of Israel and Saudi Arabia are the two most commonly sited reasons by Osama. The first attack listed, the hostage crisis in Iran, was directly linked to our planning and support in the fall of the democratically elected regime in 1953 and the subsequent backing of the corrupt Shah through the 1970's. The Iranians did not want our "freedoms" or our choice of dictator.

3. Who were the attackers?
Muslims really scare me, don't they you? Can't we just stamp out that religion?

4. What is the Muslim population of the World? 25%.
Can we get rid of 1.3 billion people?

5. Isn't the Muslim Religion peaceful?
Can we get a Muslim to speak on this?

Why is the war on Iraq described as the war on terrorism? Did any of the 911 terrorists have Iraqi citizenship? If we had sent all the troops that are now in Iraq to Afghanistan could we have located Osama?

Read Senator McCain's reflections on abusing prisoners, why we shouldn't, how prisoner abuse makes the United States freedoms and democracy stand for NOTHING. Also check into CIA reports on prisoner torture and the unreliable information torture produces.

Currently Iran is a democratically elected government. We don't like them, but they are. Pakistan has a military dictator, but we like him a lot. Indonesia, the worlds largest Muslim country, until last year, had a female, democratically elected President. But it's like the communist domino theory, they're all bad, and they're out to get us.

 
At 5:55 PM, May 04, 2006, Blogger camojack vignetted...

Dude, it's been over 6 months.

Need...new...post!

 
At 6:30 PM, May 13, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous vignetted...

It may be over 6 months but the danger is still there. We cannot let our guard down and need to unite even more now.
mb

 
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At 4:15 PM, May 24, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous vignetted...

that previous post from anonymous sounds like more political correct dribble... get a clue Islam is NOT a religion of peace.....you don't need to be muslim to know that, just READ koran, hadiths, suras and SEE for yourself or just look at the life of Mohammad...he never said "turn the other cheek or love thy neighbor" he said stuff like "and slay them wherever ye catch them" 2:191 & "I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their fingertips off them" 8:12.
This retired military man,DR Chong is right on, he is neither a bigot or racist for telling the TRUTH, you probably think that in 1938 Hitler was only trying to get back for Germany what they lost to repressive treaties after WWI....
Yeah the USA is not perfect but it sure is a whole heck of a lot better than what they got over in any Muslim country today...or why is it that so many immigrants are trying to get here from ALL over the world.
Mohammad said: "Lying is wrong,*except in three things:the lie of a man to his wife to make her content with him;a lie to an enemy, for **WAR is deception; or a lie to settle trouble between people"(Ahmad,6.459.H)
*Islam is the only religion that implies in it's scriptures that it's ever permissible to lie.
** Any non-Muslim land is considered a land of WAR (Dar ul Harb)
The name of this concept is Taqiyya.
Read more and learn more don't just repeat the PC dribble....USA needs a wake up call that's for sure. we all need to Unite behind the REALITY OF WAR or we will be a slave or muslim or dead.

 
At 6:37 PM, June 05, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous vignetted...

The great battle of all time will be waged between Christians and Muslims. It is foretold in every major prophecy in the Bible. It is obvious to any right thinking individual which religion is correct. If God exists and if His nature is to have any care for His creation...Judao-Christian religion is the only real option. So all this boils down to what be believe spiritually. This is why it will be the great battle of all time. What we believe spiritually defines who we are and all of our motivations. I know with certainty what I believe is the truth. I'm sure many muslims say the same. We will simply have to play this one out and see what proves to be correct. I am fully willing to stake my life, my families life and the life of my country on what I believe. I hope you are. If not you may want to concider reading the Bible, especially the book of John in the New Testament. You can find one almost anywhere right now. That may change rather rapidly, so hurry.

 
At 12:24 PM, June 20, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous vignetted...

Dr. Chong must be halucinating from too much medicine. He is without a doubt a disciple of the neocon school of thought. What he has said is shameful, not academically sound, emotionally charged, and lacks foundation. I pitty his state of mind and those who might be sold or remotely agree with what he says.

 
At 4:27 PM, June 21, 2006, Anonymous librarian vignetted...

USAF Major General Vernon Chong is a real person but the essay was not written by him...

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/soapbox/chong.asp

 
At 12:19 AM, July 18, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous vignetted...

I just received this article and read most of the comments posted.
Everyone brings up the subject of religion, but gorget that religion did not start wars, people did. People wage wars for supremacy of their culture, their countries, or their families. Religion is just an excuse to an end that is prosperity.
As for the the ideas that muslims are out to destroy us because of our superiority, consider this:
When the war between Iraq and Iran was taking place, Saddam Hussein's ally was the US. They trained his troops, gave him weapons, and supported him. Also, who do you think trained Bin Ladden's people? Same answer as above. We train people to wage wars and they turn against us because when we do not need them anymore, we turn them to the wolves.
Do not blame wars on religion, rather blame it on greed and money. We can go to Iraq and claim that we want freedom and democratie, but we do not do the same in N. Korea, China, Saudi Arabia, Africa etc... The reason for that is that there is no benefit for us. We do not need to unite to fight a war against Muslims or any other religion; instead, we need to unite as the voice of reason and fairness. As the most powerful nation in the world, we need to defend the opressed and help the poor. Instead of spending billions of dollars on wars, our government should spend it on resolving interior issues like social security, poverty, rebuilding the areas ravaged by the hurricane etc...
Our unity has to be directed at pressuring our government into acting in the benefit of our country primarely; nevertheless, our governments dating back to WWI have let us down. They entered into the wrong coalitions, waged the wrong wars, supported the wrong people and countries, and were not consistent with their agendas.
In conclusion, yes UNITE America. But do not unite to wage war, but to preach peace by showing the example.

 
At 3:05 AM, July 18, 2006, Anonymous Steel vignetted...

Since when did that do any good?

The poor will always be with us. AIDS, Cancer, and other epidemics will continue to plague us (pardon the pun) regardless of how much we spend trying to eradicate them. As for the other internal issues of the United States, money isn't going to cut it. We're going to need a moral revolution and massive legal and political clean-up. More on that later, maybe...

I just wanted to point out some frightening parallelisms:

1. Appeasement. A term we all should recognize from studying the interim between World Wars I and II. The vast majority of Europe practised appeasement on German militaristic advances, all of which were in direct violation of the Treaty of Versailles, and allowed them to continue practising Blitzkrieg on Spain. This is viewed by many as the primary factor in allowing World War II to occur. Europe stood by and watched as Hitler did all but urinate on the Treaty of Versailles. They shook the occasional finger, but largely stood in fear. If Versailles had been enforced, Hitler would never have been able to build his army to any extent...let alone to a conquering force.

**As a side note, I want to say that I in no way support the Treaty of Versailles. It was a bad move on every angle, and kindled an enduring grudge in Germany. The point is not that Versailles was the solution; the point is that appeasement was not the answer.**

2. Modern appeasement. We are allowing the Muslim agenda to progress relatively unhindered. Don't balk at the term "agenda". Every group has an agenda, and noone is completely open about their motives. The current Israel-Lebanon Missile Crisis and the global reaction to it are proof enough of rampant acquiescence. The global community is advising Israel to act with a "measured response". The EU even spoke out against Israel. Lebanon has not ever fully complied with UN Resolution 1559, and was acting illegally when they fired missiles into northern Israel. For the past several decades, the world has been trying to ignore the Middle East. We are standing back and letting things happen, refusing to admit that the result could affect us too.

3. The correlation. We are once again practising global appeasement and allowing an aggressor to gain strength. Once again, we assault those who would stand against that aggressor. I am noticing a frightening parallelism in the way things are panning out, here. Not to be a doomsayer or anything, but we are yet riding the brink of World War III. Each nation has its hand in some side of the Middle Eastern conflict, and it has grown more treacherous and more complex than any conflict before.

Let's not allow ourselves to appease the aggressor any longer.

 
At 8:33 PM, July 19, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous vignetted...

the day i give up my civil rights is the
day i die not one min. sooner. dr chong suggests the only way for peace is to kill all the muslims. if we quiet telling other countrys how to live and quite trying to steal there resources
and force our ways of life on them. they would live us alone. there not angery at our freedom or our success they want to live the way they want to live in there own country on fair playing table. dr chong must have stock in some arms co
don't ever give up your civil rights you will never get them back. all we did by going into iraq was put fuel on
a slow burning fire which has now become a large flame. dr chong is another war monger like bush and his other crooks its all about the money don't let anyone tell you different. watch the cd why we fight if you want the truth. don't forget freedom is your civil rights.

 
At 3:25 AM, July 21, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous vignetted...

I realize that Maj. Gen. Chong did not actually author this article, the actual author was a retired attorney writing a letter to his sons and the original title was something like "A Letter To My Sons", it was forwarded by Gen. Chong, who obviously must have agreed with it or he would not have forwarded it and passed it along for others to read.

For the original title and beginning of the letter go to
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/soapbox/chong.asp

It actually makes more sense if you read it in that context, in my opinion. The author says right at the beginning that he's not interested in the politics of it all, as he has supported several different presidents since WWII.

The real question we should be asking here is "Is this really true?" I for one believe it is. No matter who wrote it. IMO, it's a good piece, one that you will never see in today's politically correct mainstream media.

 
At 3:16 AM, July 24, 2006, Anonymous Byron De Lear vignetted...

I have written to you all to warn you of the following hate speech written by a “Dr. Chong” sent to you and copied below.

I received this email and am shocked at some of the complete vitriolic aspersions reminiscent of the kind of arguments made to demonize and vilify an entire group justified by fear mongering the likes that were seen in Nazi Germany.

To respond to each of these inaccurate historical analyses would be far to time consuming – but please know that these conclusions show a complete lack of understanding of the geopolitical issues at hand, and are ridiculous if not laughable.

To say that terrorists have attacked the US because of their hatred of “our position, our success, our freedoms” is cartoonish at best and at complete odds with even the current Bush administration’s CIA breakdown of what motivates terror organizations.

To say that ‘Spain is finished’ in regard to pulling its troops out of the Iraqi quagmire– arguably the worst foreign policy debacle conducted by our country in decades – misses the fact that it is not in Spain’s interest to be tied down to the Iraqi Quagmire. Nor is it in the interest of all the other countries that have systematically pulled their troops out – Italy, Japan, Bulgaria, Honduras, Thailand – etc.

Iraq is in a state of complete civil war with 6000 folks killed in May and June of ‘06 alone – The presence of our valuable armed forces is only making the situation worse according the head US commander there – General George Casey – “… US occupation fuels the insurgency…”

Guess what, if the US occupation fuels the nightmare, in a very simple mathematic manner lose the occupation to wake us up.

Dr. Chong says, “And finally, name any Muslim countries throughout the world that allow freedom of speech, freedom of thought, freedom of religion, freedom of the press, equal rights for anyone -- let alone everyone, equal status or any status for women, or that have been productive in one single way that contributes to the good of the world.”

How about Bangladesh, Dr. Chong?

Can you believe that the prime minister and the leader of the opposition party in 95% Muslim Bangladesh are both women? They have a program of micro credit that is envied around the world. 141 million people – half the size of the US.

This kind of argument demonizing an entire religion is simply ludicrous, and Dr. Chong even contradicts himself as earlier in his diatribe he states that religious affiliation is irrelevant in defining an ominous threat as the example he provides with Nazi Germany’s ‘Christian’ leaders and their swath of industrialized carnage.

Dr. Chong – if you are to be taken seriously -- you can’t have it both ways, either religion is relevant to the terror or its not.

The arguments here vilifying more than one billion people are reduced to absurdity.

Then Dr. Chong again makes his arguments unsound as he directly contradicts himself.

He complains about the attention given to the treatment at Guantanemo Bay and the torture uncovered at Abu Graib, “Of more recent vintage, the uproar fueled by the politicians and media regarding the treatment of some prisoners of war, perhaps exemplifies best what I am saying. We have recently had an issue, involving the treatment of a few Muslim prisoners of war, by a small group of our military police…” and then later… “Compare this with some of our press and politicians, who for several days have thought and talked about nothing else but the "humiliating" of some Muslim prisoners -- not burning them, not dragging their charred corpses through the streets, not be heading them, but "humiliating" them.”

Dr. Chong fails to realize that you cannot arrest people without due process – this is unconstitutional and un-American – and law says you cannot torture prisoners either. Apparently he supports breaking down our basic freedoms and protections…

But then later Dr. Chong admonishes that, “Democracies don't have their freedoms taken away from them by some external military force. Instead, they give their freedoms away, politically correct piece by politically correct piece.”

He has violated his own arguments again.

Clearly the ‘politically correct’ thing to have done post-911 was to NOT go against war flag unfurled or to NOT protest civil liberties being withdrawn, or to go ahead and cheerlead Gonzalez concocted torture memos breaking down core American values.

It was ‘politically correct’ to justify the handing over of prisoners to the Egyptian secret police via CIA Lear Jet trips and labeled euphemistically as “Extraordinary Rendition”– Dr. Chong has composed an essay full of contradictions.

This destruction of basic logic must stop, and that’s why I’ve attempted to stop the bleeding of the body of truth abit by taking time off from my campaigning for Congress to answer this necrotic essay of Dr. Chong’s.

I’m sure Vernon Chong means well, and is being patriotic to his highest sense of right.

I respect his service to our country in the USAF and I respect his opportunity to air his thoughts.

But I would encourage Dr. Chong to look to his own Hippocratic oath taken as a surgeon and take the perspective of not contributing to the conflict by forwarding an obsolete analysis or a fear mongering “we’re about to lose our way of life and we have to engage in Total War!” – Dr. Chong, please think like a social physician and ‘Do No Harm’.

In this spirit I have included for you all an essay I wrote regarding peacemaking in the Middle East and the problems with stereotyping groups into being all of one thing or another – it is entitled “Sounding Peace to Silence Violence”


In your service,

Byron De Lear
Byron@DeLearforCongress.org
www.DeLearforCongress.org
Congressional Campaign in California's 28th District

Speech delivered on April 23rd, 2006 at the Wilshire Synagogue for the Unity-and-Diversity World Council’s Interfaith Celebration and Meeting entitled “Seeking Interfaith Solutions to the Middle East Conflict”

Sounding Peace to Silence Violence

Hello, my name's Byron De Lear and I'm running for Congress in California's 28th District.

I'm happy to share with you some of my thoughts regarding Peace and Interfaith relations in the Middle East.

The three monotheistic religions all proclaim humanity's divine Unity of origin, and command us to bring ourselves to higher ground through the expression of love and compassion and understanding for one another. This is the evolved interpretation of our religious heritages and any differences are superseded by that which would assist in the uplifting and ascension of our species.

Our Creator blessed us with One Planet, One Garden, One family of humanity.

And any doctrine that attempts to separate or keep peoples at fault from one another is not coming from an evolved or an ascended place -- let alone being of divine origin.

I used to work in show biz as a musician and producer of media, but back in 2003 I had some experiences that were truly transformational which led me to quit my career in show biz - at the time I was working for 20th Century Fox - sell my house in Sherman Oaks and fly to the Middle East to work for peace.

I co-founded a non-profit organization called Global Peace Solution and began working with various peace makers and peace organizations in Israel, Palestine and Egypt.

My partner Ofer Lifshitz - who is now the founder of a new progressive political party in Israel called Brit Olam, or Eternal Covenant - my partner and I worked with Ami Ayalon and Sari Nusseibeh to help amplify their six-point peace initiative, which was basically a simplification of the Geneva Accord, and succeeded in garnering close to half a million signatures amongst Palestinians and Israelis calling for a two-state settlement and bringing safety to both populations.

I'd like to impart to you all one of the most valuable peace making techniques that I had learned on my first trip to the Holy Land back in 2004.

Now I'll make the assumption that most of us here are forward thinking individuals and peacemakers interested in bringing an end to the suffering of a great many folks around the planet - but this little tool that I will share with you involves not necessarily dealing with the peace making individual, but rather successfully reaching people so entrenched in their thinking to the point of vitriolic vilification of what they perceive to be their enemy. - the "other", right?

Now this tool of nonviolence will be shown through the Israeli
Palestinian Conflict, but could be used to help in any conflict resolution really.

As part of this peace delegation I saw the effects of reaching seemingly entrenched people from all walks of life with this concept in mind.

People for peace on one hand, authors of war on the other.

To see the battle as not being one of feuding tribes - but rather being the struggle to bring safety to families traumatized by conflict.

And then helping others to see the situation in this light.

Having this perspective, to frame the issue around basic human rights
and needs was from my experience the best way to succeed at conflict resolution.

Conflict resolution first begins in the hearts and minds of those involved.

A key understanding for me to unpack this conflict lay in knowing that the origins of war are sown way before any violence or cruelty has occurred.

War begins with violation of thought that summons the violence of deed.

These origins of war are the attitudes and stereotypes that we carry which are eventually sounded as violent communication.

It was immediately clear that in conflict resolution language was key- and in preparation for our trip, I had attended a seminar called "Nonviolent Communication" given by Marshall Rosenberg.

Becoming familiar with some of the techniques of nonviolent communication gave me some insight into how people so close to conflict can unknowingly maintain and further that conflict just with the attitudes that they express: violent language is a form of warfare, and can be a catalyst to more violence.

I heard so many points of view that violated the principles of nonviolent communication from both sides of the conflict in Israel --

"All the Arabs want to do is throw Israel into the sea..."

or,

"The Jews will never want peace, all they're interested in doing is killing innocents and destroying our homes..."

or,

"The Palestinians will never negotiate in good faith, they've always broken the peace and it would be a fool's trap to ever trust them again."

Being able to spot the seeds of warfare contained in language, allowed me stop people after making such stereotyping generalizations and simply explain,

"Hey, now wait a minute (talking to an Israeli), you're making a mistake by using a broad generalization because you're stereotyping a diverse population into being such-and-such, and you know as well as I do, how among the Israelis there are people that are peaceful on one hand, and that there are also more militant and warlike people on the other hand -- hawks and doves and everything in between, right? So, it makes sense that there's a diverse range of expressions and attitudes on the Palestinian side as well, right? And because of the reality of that diverse range amongst both peoples, if we work to amplify and strengthen the doves as opposed to the hawks - the peacemakers, not the war-mongers, change could occur, couldn't it? We could bring safety to the region through the amplification of love."

What to invest in, that was the question.

If I could succeed at getting someone so entrenched in their beliefs to accept the diversity of opinion on their own side -- which often they were well aware of -- they could then admit to the breadth of perspective on the other side; and if that was the case, indicting a whole group into a stereotype was a form of violent communication – a form of warfare - and ultimately a contribution to the conflict.

So, what to invest in, war or peace... most people we walked through this technique could then choose to become peacemakers by not propagating negativity through violent communication, because in reality, most people really want peace.

So to reiterate getting folks so entrenched in their beliefs to accept the diversity of opinion on their own side -- which often they were well aware of -- they could then admit to the breadth of perspective on the other side; and if that was the case, indicting a whole group into a stereotype was a form of violent communication -- a form of warfare - and ultimately a contribution to the conflict.

This then gave the person the choice to continue to war or to accept the sea change in their thinking and join the ranks of peacemakers - which in my mind; the numbers are way in our favor like a million or more to one.

To me, this is a 21st Centurian perspective of the realities on the ground - people for peace on one hand, authors of war on the other.

To see the battle as not being one of feuding tribes - but rather being the struggle to bring safety to families traumatized by conflict.

And then helping others to see the situation in this light.

Hopefully in the end we can render the travail and tragedy of ethnic conflict and tribal strife obsolete -- obsolete in the face of what our common religious heritages reveal to us: that we are all the children of God.

For more info please visit:
Unity-and-Diversity World Council
www.http://www.udcworld.org/




> Subject: Muslims, terrorists and the USA....A different spin on Iraq war.
>
> This WAR is for REAL!
>
>
> Dr. Vernon Chong, Major General, USAF, Retired
>
> Tuesday, July 12, 2005
> To get out of a difficulty, one usually must go
> through it. Our country is now facing the most
> serious threat to its existence, as we know it, that
> we have faced in your lifetime and mine (which
> includes WWII).
>
> The deadly seriousness is greatly compounded by the
> fact that there are very few of us who think we can
> possibly lose this war and even fewer who realize
> what losing really means.
>
> First, let's examine a few basics:
>
> 1. When did the threat to us start?
> Many will say September 11, 2001. The answer as far
> as the United State is concerned is 1979, 22 years
> prior to September 2001, with the following attacks
> on us:
>
> * Iran Embassy Hostages, 1979;
> * Beirut, Lebanon Embassy 1983;
> * Beirut, Lebanon Marine Barracks 1983;
> * Lockerbie, Scotland Pan-Am flight to New York
> 1988;
> * First New York World Trade Center attack 1993;
> * Dhahran, Saudi Arabia Khobar Towers Military
> complex 1996;
> * Nairobi, Kenya US Embassy 1998;
> * Dares Salaam, Tanzania US Embassy 1998;
> * < st1:City>Aden, Yemen USS Cole 2000;
> * New York World Trade Center 2001;
> * Pentagon 2001.
>
> (Note that during the period from 1981 to 2001 there
> were 7,581 terrorist attacks worldwide).
>
> 2. Why were we attacked?
>
> Envy of our position, our success, and our freedoms.
> The attacks happened during the administrations of
> Presidents Carter, Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton and Bush
> 2. We cannot fault either the Republicans or
> Democrats as there were no provocation s by any of
> the presidents or their immediate predecessors,
> Presidents Ford or Carter.
>
> 3. Who were the attackers?
> In each case, the attacks on the US were carried out
> by Muslims.
>
> 4. What is the Muslim population of the World? 25%.
>
> 5. Isn't the Muslim Religion peaceful?
> Hopefully, but that is really not material. There is
> no doubt that the
> predominately Christian population of Germany was
> peaceful, but under the dictatorial leadership of
> Hitler (who was also Christian), that made no
> difference. You either went along with the
> administration or you were eliminated. There were 5
> to 6 million Christians killed by the Nazis for
> political reasons (including 7,000 Polish priests).
> (see http://www.nazis.testimony.co.uk/7-a.htm )
>
> Thus, almost the same number of Christians were
> killed by the Nazis, as the six million holocaust
> Jews who were killed by them, and we seldom heard of
> anything other than the Jewish atrocities. Although
> Hitler kept the world focused on the Jews, he had no
> hesitancy about killing anyone who got in his way of
> exterminating the Jews or of taking over the world -
> German, Christian or any others.
>
> Same with the Muslim terrorists. They focus the
> world on the US, but kill all in the way -- their
> own people or the Spanish, French or anyone else.
> The point here is that just like the peaceful
> Germans were of no protection to anyone from the
> Nazis, no matter how many peaceful Muslims there may
> be, they are no protection for us from th e
> terrorist Muslim leaders and what they are
> fanatically bent on doing -- by their own
> pronouncements -- killing all of us "infidels." I
> don't blame the peaceful Muslims. What would you do
> if the choice was shut up or die?
>
> 6. So who are we at war with?
>
> There is no way we can honestly respond that it is
> anyone other than the Muslim terrorists. Trying to
> be politically correct and avoid verbalizing this
> conclusion can well be fatal. There is no way to win
> if you don't clearly recognize and articulate who
> you are fighting.
>
> So with that background, now to the two major
> questions:
>
> 1. Can we lose this war?
>
> 2. What does losing really mean?
>
> If we are to win, we must clearly answer these two
> pivotal questions
>
> We can definitely lose this war, and as anomalous as
> it may sound, the major reason we can lose is that
> so many of us simply do not fathom the answer to the
> second question - What does losing mean?
>
> It would appear that a great many of us think that
> losing the war means hanging our heads, bringing the
> troops home and going on about our business, like
> post Vietnam. This is as far from the truth as one
> can get.
>
> What losing really means is:
>
> We would no longer be the premier country in the
> world. The attacks will not subside, but rather will
> steadily increase. Remember, they want us dead, not
> just quiet. If they had just wanted us quiet, they
> would not have produced an increasing series of
> attacks against us, over the past 18 years. The plan
> was clearly, for terrorist to attack us, until we
> were neutered and submissive to them.
>
> We would of course have no future support from other
> nations, for fear of reprisals and for the reason
> that they would see, we are impotent and cannot help
> them.
>
> They will pick off the other non-Muslim nations, one
> at a time. It will be increasingly easier for them.
> They already hold Spain hostage. It doesn't matter
> whether it was right or wrong for Spain to withdraw
> its troops from Iraq. Spain did it because the
> Muslim terrorists bombed their train and told them
> to withdraw the troops. Anything else they want
> Spain to do will be done. Spain is finished.
>
> The next will probably be France. Our one hope on
> France is that they might see the light and realize
> that if we don't win, they are finished too, in that
> they can't resist the Muslim terrorists without us.
> However, it may already be too late for France.
> France is already 20% Muslim and fading fast!
>
> If we lose the war, our production, income, exports
> and way of life will all vanish as we know it. After
> losing, who would trade or deal with us, if they
> were threatened b y the Muslims. If we can't stop
> the Muslims, how could anyone else?
>
> The Muslims fully know what is riding on this war,
> and therefore are completely committed to winning,
> at any cost. We better know it too and be likewise
> committed to winning at any cost.
>
> Why do I go on at such lengths about the results of
> losing? Simple. Until we recognize the costs of
> losing, we cannot unite and really put 100% of our
> thoughts and efforts into winning. And it is going
> to take that 100% effort to win.
>
> So, how can we lose the war?
>
> Again, the answer is simple. We can lose the war by
> "imploding." That is, defeating ourselves by
> refusing to recognize the enemy and their purpose,
> and really digging in and lending full support to
> the war effort if we are united, there is no way
> that we can lose. If we continue to be divided,
> there is no way that we can win!
>
> Let me give you a few examples of how we simply
> don't comprehend the life and death seriousness of
> this situation.
>
> President Bush selects Norman Mineta as Secretary of
> Transportation. Although all of the terrorist
> attacks were committed by Muslim men between 17 and
> 40 years of age, Secretary Mineta refuses to allow
> profiling. Does that sound like we are taking this
> thing seriously? This is war! For the duration, we
> are going to have to give up some of the civil
> rights we have become accustomed to. We had better
> be prepared to lose some of our civil rights
> temporarily or we will most certainly lose all of
> them permanently.
>
> And don't worry that it is a slippery slope. We gave
> up plenty of civil rights during WWII, and
> immediately restored them after the victory and in
> fact added many more since then.
>
> Do I blame President Bush or President Clinton
> before him?
>
> No, I blame us for blithely assuming we can maintain
> all of our Political Correctness, and all of our
> civil rights during this conflict and have a clean,
> lawful, honorable war. None of those words apply to
> war. Get them out of your head.
>
> Some have gone so far in their criticism of the war
> and/or the
> Administration that it almost seems they would
> literally like to see us lose. I hasten to add that
> this isn't because they are disloyal. It is because
> they just don't recognize what losing means.
> Nevertheless, that conduct gives the impression to
> the enemy that we are divided and weakening. It
> concerns our friends, and it does great damage to
> our cause.
>
> Of more recent vintage, the uproar fueled by the
> politicians and media regarding the treatment of
> some prisoners of war, perhaps exemplifies best what
> I am saying. We have recently had an issue,
> involving the treatment of a few Muslim prisoners of
> war, by a small group of our military police. These
> are the type prisoners who just a few months ago
> were throwing their own people off buildings,
> cutting off their hands, cutting out their tongues
> and otherwise murdering their own people just for
> disagreeing with Saddam Hussein.
>
> And just a few years ago these same type prisoners
> chemically killed 400,000 of their own people for
> the same reason. They are also the same type of
> enemy fighters, who recently were burning Americans,
> and dragging their charred corpses through the
> streets of Iraq.
>
> And still more recently, the same type of enemy that
> was and is providing videos to all news sources
> internationally, of the beheading of American
> prisoners they held.
>
> Compare this with some of our press and politicians,
> who for several days have thought and talked about
> nothing else but the "humiliating" of some Muslim
> prisoners -- not burning them, not dragging their
> charred corpses through the streets, not be heading
> them, but "humiliating" them.
>
> Can this be for real?
>
> The politicians and pundits have even talked of
> impeachment of the Secretary of Defense. If this
> doesn't show the complete lack of
> comprehension and understanding of the seriousness
> of the enemy we are fighting, the life and death
> struggle we are in and the disastrous results of
> losing this war, nothing can.
>
> To bring our country to a virtual political
> standstill over this prisoner issue makes us look
> like Nero playing his fiddle as Rome burned --
> totally oblivious to what is going on in the real
> world. Neither we, nor any other country, can
> survive this internal strife. Again I say, this does
> not mean that some of our politi cians or media
> people are disloyal. It simply means that they are
> absolutely oblivious to the magnitude, of the
> situation we are in and into which the Muslim
> terrorists have been pushing us, for many years.
>
> Remember, the Muslim terrorists stated goal is to
> kill all infidels! That translates into ALL
> non-Muslims -- not just in the United State, but
> throughout the world.
>
> We are the last bastion of defense.
>
> We have be en criticized for many years as being
> 'arrogant.' That charge is valid in at least one
> respect. We are arrogant in that we believe that we
> are so good, powerful and smart, that we can win the
> hearts and minds of all those who attack us, and
> that with both hands tied behind our back, we can
> defeat anything bad in the world!
>
> We can't!
>
> If we don't recognize this, our nation as we know it
> will not survive, and no other free country in the
> world will survive if we are defeated.
>
> And finally, name any Muslim countries throughout
> the world that allow freedom of speech, freedom of
> thought, freedom of religion, freedom of the press,
> equal rights for anyone -- let alone everyone, equal
> status or any status for women, or that have been
> productive in one single way that contributes to the
> good of the world.
>
> This has been a long way of saying that we must be
> united on this war or we will be equated in the
> history books to the self-inflicted fall of the
> Roman Empire . If, that is, the Muslim leaders will
> allow history books to be written or read.
>
> If we don't win this war right now, keep a close eye
> on how the Muslims take over France in the next 5
> years or less. They will continue to increase the
> Muslim population of France and continue to encroach
> little by little, on the established French
> traditions. The French will be fighting among
> themselves, over what should or should not be done,
> which will continue to weaken them and keep them
> from any united resolve. Doesn't that sound eerily
> familiar?
>
> Democracies don't have their freedoms taken away
> from them by some external military force. Instead,
> they give their freedoms away, politically correct
> piece by politically correct piece.
>
> And they are giving those freedoms away to those who
> have shown, worldwide that they abhor freedom and
> will not apply it to you or even to themselves, once
> they are in power.
>
> They have universally shown that when they have
> taken over, they then start brutally killing each
> other over who will be the few who control the
> masses. Will we ever stop hearing from the
> politically correct, about the "peaceful Muslims"?
>
> I close on a hopeful note, by repeating what I said
> above. If we are united, there is no way that we can
> lose. I hope now after the election, the factions in
> our country will begin to focus on the critical
> situation we are in, and will unite to save our
> country. It is your future we are talking about! Do
> whatever you can to preserve it.
>
> After reading the above, we all must do this not
> only for ourselves, but our children, our
> grandchildren, our country and the world, whether
> Democrat or Republican, conservative or liberal and
> that include the Politicians and media of our
> country and the free world!


In your service,

Byron De Lear
Byron@DeLearforCongress.org
www.DeLearforCongress.org
Congressional Campaign in California's 28th District

 
At 5:03 PM, August 07, 2006, Blogger Retired Navy Seal vignetted...

I am a bit dismayed at many of the posts on this board. Dr. Chong posted out a lot of facts and those that oppose his "point of view". I say point of view because they are not his direct comments. He simply posted the text because he must of agreed with much of it.

I also agree with much of what was written, and I take exception to some of you chose to rebut his view by stating the U.S. is to blame for much of the hatred and terrorism that Muslim extremists are carrying out throughout the world.

First of all, regardless of the foreign policy conducted by the U.S. it does not deserve to be exposed to terrorism.

To say we (US) provoke terrorsim on ourselves is a lie and the people who make these statements are supporters of terrorism or are truely stupid and ignorrant to the world at large.

Terrorism is nothing more than murder and attrocities committed against unarmed defenseless citizens in the name of a political or religous idealogy.

It is used to blackmail civilized societies into making political consessions to thugs and criminals who hide behind the mask of murder and hatred and whose ultimate goal is not religous or idealogical freedom of identity but the political and idealogical control of others - basicly the enslavement of the poor and defenseless.

A sad but true fact of the world today is that it is very easy to unite people regardless of ethnicity or religous beliefs in hatred.

Hatred against the rich, the powerfull, the successfull, the Jews, Non Muslims, Muslims, Blacks, Asians.....whatever the group may be simply by sighting that they are different and that they are responsible for all the misery, crime, or oppression that a group may be suffering.

This has been going on for thousands of years. Millions upon Millions of people have been butchered, maimed, killed and enslaved in the name of God and religion.

This patern will continue for as long as individuals like Osamma Bin Ladden, African Warlords, Neo Facists, Communists and others like them use hatred of others as their stake to political power.

A sad thing that most people in the United States do not realize is that the freedom they enjoy today was not given to them or granted to them as a God given right.

They enjoy their freedom because it was paid for in blood by those that fought and died for it. Starting with the American Revolution to the modern day.

Unfortunately the news media that seems to be dominated by anguished liberals and homosexuals keep perpetuating the notion that our political system and way of life is out of context with the rest of the world.

Perhaps if they tried to practice their homosexual and liberal beliefs in Iran or Syria they would come away with a different perspective.

To say that Radical Islam is not a threat to the civilized world is nothing more than an uneducated comment or intentional ignorance.

And contrary to some of the comments displayed in this blog the United States IS singled out by terrorists becuase the U.S. is the single largest obsticle and deterence to their brand of hatred based political power.

How odd that the same liberal media singles out Israel for their "Military Campaign" against Hezbollah and constantly condems them for the deaths of innocent civillians but Hezbollah can launch thousands of rockets aimed at civilians and no condemantion follows.

Israel attacks military targets used by terrorists in civillian areas like Schools, Churches, Hospitals, Aprtments etc... and Israel is at fault when civillians are killed or injured. Hezbollah can launch thousands of missles aimed at civillians but they are reported as opposing Israeli aggression... How twisted the world has become.

Isreal more than any other country understands what religous and Idealogical freedom really means. It is surrounded by countries that want to see it destroyed.

Every Israeli citizen pays the price for their citizenship by serving in the military. They also live in constant threat of death and injury from terrorism.

In the mean time most Americans have only the vaguest idea of what sacrifice and the fear of terror realy is.

Perhaps when North Korea or Iran detonates a nuclear weapon in their neighborhood the threat will hit home.

Then the cries and screams will be like those that came from those in NY on September 11th. How can we allow this to happen?

"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extintion. It must be fought for, protected and handed on to them to do the same or we spend our sunset years telling our children, amd our childrens' children what it was like in the United States where men were free." (Ronald Reagan)

 
At 12:37 PM, August 09, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous vignetted...

Snopes.com. Just more internet misinformation. Dr. Chong didn't write this.

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/soapbox/chong.asp

 
At 6:27 PM, August 28, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous vignetted...

Life is about choices and living with the consequences - The US CHOOSE to invade Iraq - Saddam could have been taken out in 1991 - but was not - why? Because the US wants to keep its foot in Kuwait - why? OIL. If we can say that Islam is not a peaceful religion - can we not say the same about Christianity - I am sure that most members of the KKK went to Church every sunday. Two wrongs never make a right - the murder of innocent people whatever their creed or colour IS WRONG and can never be justified. As someone who lived in the Middle East for a number of years my findings were that America is disliked at best and hated at worst because of the perception that he favours Israel - and indeed the evidence for such belief is real - we do not have to like everyone, or agree with them but we must respect their beliefs -If George Bush is so concerned about freedom - why does he not invade Saudi Arabia and free the woman of that country - Oh sorry I forget he is friends with the King - nuff said.

 
At 2:38 AM, August 30, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous vignetted...

From some of the responses here, and
from many other articles and statements
made, I believe that everyone who believes that appeasement, or any indication of favor on the side of the radical Islamic people who commit any
acts of terrorism should be the ones
who individually, and personally go to
those factions and attempt their own
negotiations to "appease" the problems.

Why is it that we never see those types
ever involve themself in anything
more than to develop some 'platform'
for an audience, or actually do
nothing at all? If they have the
answer, let them personally implement
that answer with those groups who
perform terrorist acts.

 
At 5:18 PM, September 03, 2006, Blogger 'Tart vignetted...

I’ll give Dr. Chong’s letter this: It really is a wake up call for the majority of us slobs who don’t have a clue that our way of life and things we love may be in danger. And yes, I am one of those slobs. What does it hurt to realize that sitting on our duffs and thinking everything is okay is like sitting in a dream world. ‘All is peaceful in my little acre of the world, and so it shall stay,’ the Idiot thinks.

There could be no bigger Dubbya hater in the world than myself. It’s true not much seemed to be going on in Iraq until we poked that wasp nest. HOWever, look how vicious and violent those wasps showed to be. Fighting like guerillas against the greatest superpower in the world, yet kicking our a** with homemade bombs and crap bought from supposedly ‘low-equipped lower class’ countries.

You can pick this or Chong’s missive apart, that’s the logical thing to do, right? But what are we gonna do when the next big one hits, and I’m not talking hurricanes. Better have your emergency supplies ready. Me, I can’t wait to take shooting lessons. It doesn’t hurt to have skills.

 
At 7:08 AM, September 13, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous vignetted...

THE DR. Chong Essay is a HOAX! DR. Chong is a not a fictional character however he did not write the origional text or add teh additional content which has been passed off as his creation.Check your facts before being drawn into an senceless debate. Simply because someone attaches the name of a General to an essay does not make it genuine. Check the facts here http://www.snopes.com/rumors/soapbox/chong.asp
http://leados.blogs.com/blog/2005/11/vernon_chong_sa.html

 
At 8:50 PM, September 20, 2006, Anonymous llevell vignetted...

Religion is the true enemy to mankind. It has been throughout history

 
At 1:09 PM, September 22, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous vignetted...

I can't believe some of the ocmments you boobs have left. Who cares if it was a letter written by Dr. Chong or not -- look at the content. I know Muslim people, some who have entered my family by marriage who are US citizens, but still maintain the "old country" traditions even after being in this country for years. Interesting, but I can not stand to watch the "machoism" of the supposedly adult males in their relation to the women in the family and other infidels. I will not cater to them, and this causes all kinds of friction. Their complete essence is they are so much better than anyone. Compound this by giving someone a little power and you have Osama, or Saddim. You can see the tantrums Saddim is throwing in his trial just to stall things.

Wake up people. Bush didn't start this war, it has been brewing for along time. Although I don't agree with alot of what government does, Bush had enough courage to send troops into the Iraq and to look for Osama after thousands of American lives were lost. Did anyone of you have a loved one on one of those planes that hit the towers, or in any of the embassys that were hit, or the ship that was bombed. Have any of you even lost a loved one to any type of violence? Until that happens, and until someone is holding a gun at your head, I'm sure you will never concede there are really bad people out there.

I would much rather fight a war on foreign soil than wait until it comes to my neighborhood. Recently the word is that everyone must convert to Islam or die. How many of you boobs have converted? I thought that's the whole foundation of this country is people coming here for religious freedom, among other things, because they didn't want a government telling them what religion to practice. I for one am not about to convert.

I agree with the one post in saying that for all you liberals who think this can be taken care of in a civil manner without war, to go over there and pitch your ideas. You may be the next one on their video "losing your head". We are over there looking for the extremists, and yes civilians get killed in the process, but I'll bet the Iraquis have taken out a lot more of their own people than we have. They have no reverance for any life.

Just look at the reaction against the Pope and his statement. He simply quoted what their religious text said, and now his life has been threatened. How does that happen? If I were to quote from the Old Testament and the law of Moses and say "a life for a life", am I a marked person now?

Just out of couriosity, how many other religions sanction the killing of "infidels" in order to enter paradise and the awaiting virgins? Just remember, in their eyes anyone who is not Muslim is an infidel.

WAKE UP PEOPLE, I would have thought 9/11 would have been a final wakeup call. Most of the attacks by terrorists are in other countries even though they were against us, so it's easy to dismiss them. Do you realize that an embassy in another country is actually US soil? A ship (USS Cole) is US soil?

I am also honing my shooting skills. No one is going to come after my family and my grandkids without a fight, and I hope you liberals that think all of this is US caused do not have to find out the hard way. But if you are my neighbor and they come after us, know that I will go down fighting, then you can have your Muslin services over my dead body.

 
At 5:43 PM, October 22, 2006, Blogger coastalgirl vignetted...

Byron De Lear said...
I have written to you all to warn you of the following hate speech written by a “Dr. Chong” sent to you and copied below.


Dear Mr. De Lear,

As a candidate for US Congress, I would have thought that you would have checked your facts before posting such comments on the web. As so many of the posts before yours have stated, Dr. Chong did NOT write this "hate speech".

Please go to the following link to find out who wrote it and what it was truly about: http://www.snopes.com/rumors/soapbox/chong.asp

From now on, it might be a good idea for you to research the information you receive via the internet before making such comments.

 
At 10:59 AM, November 11, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous vignetted...

To: De Lear and other bleeding heart idealistic liberals and all that pointed out that the Gen Chong was not the author---WAKE UP!!! and educate yourself. It maters not the author.
ISLAM is NOT a religion of peace. The belief of Muslims is that Islam is the only valid religion. It cannot exist in a democracy. Islam is a way of life in every facet. Allah commands them to conquer and to KILL all "infidels" (infidel=non-Muslim). Those that do are honored and their martyrs are entitled to luxury and as many virgins to fornicate as they wish for eternity. This is a substantial force driving their behavior. They are not allowed to lust in this physical world. The pent-up primal desires consume them. They are required to live in a very structured way. I can see no way that Islam can exist in any form of government other than a dictatorship because THER ARE NO FREEDOMS! You either conform to their way of life, ASSIMILATE or be annihilated !!!

Period!!

Reply to my post if you would like information (facts) resources eg: Amwrican Congress for Truth (ACT) There you can find the facts, much by input from former Muslins that escaped the religion (that now live in fear)
Just type that in your search engine

 
At 11:25 PM, November 16, 2006, Anonymous JAG vignetted...

Dr. Chong--An eye for and eye has never worked in the Middle East & will never work in the future. I agree something must be done with the terrorist but we are going about it in the wrong way
The Iraq war is for money --Billions and billions are missing and no one will look for it--American Oil companies and other companies are profiting billions--The terrorist are in Iraq because were there.
Divide up Iraq into three sections--one for each Muslim sec--The oil monies should be given to each sec according to the percentage of population in each sec. The US and ALL UN countries have to we rebuild that organization and make it a very strong UN. The UN then should lead the fight against the terrorist. That way they, the terrorist, will know that ALL countries will stand together in this battle. Many of the terrorist are broke and can't find jobs so what the terrorist offer is better than nothing (only one reason they join)
Something has to be done with the terrorist but not Bushes way where the rich are getting richer. I wonder how many billions have been put in off shore accounts in the name of the rich and powerful US people form this war????

 
At 10:11 PM, January 13, 2007, Anonymous Anonymous vignetted...

Know your sources -

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/soapbox/chong.asp

 
At 6:15 PM, August 28, 2007, Anonymous Anonymous vignetted...

I proudly served this country on Active Military status for 10 years. My father & grandfather served before me. And my husband served on active duty status in Beirut when the Marine Barracks were attacked in 1983. My daughter now serves in the Navy on active status & is due to deploy this fall. Our forefathers who bought and paid for our freedoms with their sweat and blood are not honored today, as they should be. The last school my son attended closed for Martin L. King Day, but was in session on President’s Day. Nicely honored, huh?

I received the letter that Gen. Chong allegedly wrote via e-mail. I had seen this before and knew he wasn't the author, but it doesn't matter who wrote it, the content of the letter are factual. If we as a country do not stand united and remain firm in our resolve to win this war against the Muslim Terrorists, "WE WILL FALL"! (PERIOD)
What breaks my heart is seeing this country torn apart because of cowards who would rather turn tail and run than to stand firm & united. All because of liberal bleeding hearts who do not want to look at the reality of what’s really going on in our world & because “WE SHOULD DO WHAT’S POLLITICALLY CORRECT”! Well, to hell with political correctness. Muslim’s don’t care what our political beliefs are. They only know what their book, The Koran states. And that’s to annihilate all infidels. If someone came onto your property here in the United States and told you to change your beliefs or die, what would you do? (This is basically what Muslim Terrorists did on 9/11/01) Bow down before them and change your ideals, faith, beliefs etc…or fight back with all your might? One state, (New Hampshire), has the motto, “Live Free or Die”. I choose to live free and if that means dying to ensure the freedoms of the people in this country, to include my children and grandchildren, than so be it.

What prompted me to respond in this blog is the childishness & pettiness of whose fault or who's right or wrong comments by supposed grown adults. Those that want to bash Bush and others before him because of what they’ve done or haven’t done make me sick. Does anyone of you think you can do better? Put up or shut up. I also hope you vote and do your research before making uneducated statements such as the ones I have read here and in other places. I also have a very strong belief (and hundreds of others that I know will agree with me) that no man or woman should serve as this country’s president unless they have served at least four years on active, reserve or guard status in the military. How can a President fully understand and be our Commander in Chief without it. We’ve had one President in our history that was not prior military and we all know how good that went. He had his chance to get Bin Laden and didn’t take it. We all know what happened after that…the USS Cole. Do your timeline research. The Government had knowledge of a possible attack on one of our ships and didn’t take heed or nip it before hand. (ALL OUT OF TRYING TO BE POLLITICALLY CORRECT) How sad!!!!!!

There are many here that do not know it, but the Israelis (every able bodied man and woman) are required to serve in military service and are proud to do so. Not so in this country. Why, because we’re free to make those choices. Were I to have it my way, I would make it a law in this country that every able bodied man AND WOMAN were to serve at least 2 years of active, reserve or guard status. Maybe than we wouldn’t have so many whinny a**ed grown adults making ignorant statements about “Why is our military men and women NOT being brought home?” from a hostile, terrorist infested country. THEY ARE THERE TO KEEP THE TERRORISTS FROM ATTACKING US ON OUR OWN SOIL AGAIN!!!!!!!! Would anyone here like to dispute that statement? If you do, please back it up with facts and not political garbage.

If there is anyone here that wants to bash our military or the Government that oversees it, I would hope you think twice before doing so.
Ask yourself these questions first:

1. Did I proudly serve this country in a form of military service? If not, why? Did I have a viable reason?
2. Do I have any idea how politics work? (Other than what you learned in your high school civics class)
3. Do I enjoy the freedoms, liberties and civil rights I have in this country? Or would I rather live in a regime of a secular dictatorship?

The people of our country have turned into sniveling little snobs who want the government to give them everything. The more the government gives (instead of people earning it) the more they want. I have about run out of patience listening to the whining of our young people and some of our older citizens who’ve had everything handed to them instead of working for it. I am only 41 years old, and was raised with a strong work ethic, moral character and resilience to changes. This country can ban together and also be resilient. I applaud our President for not backing down. I just pray that our next president doesn’t.

 
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